Murray and the Duke

Martel aged 8 months

Murray will be leaving us at the end of April – this is the gorgeous and happy natured ( not to say, much prizewinning) puppy who has grown  too big to be shown or bred from. We hope his new family enjoy him as much as we have, and especially that Murray settles in with his new Labrador friends, his walled garden and his new holiday home in Brittany, lucky hound…..

Duke ( Irish Ch Hasard) was always going to be here for a visit and returning home. After mating Ch Mahogany and also Creme Brûlée his trip back to Ireland was brought forward…. he was only meant to be meeting one of the girls but rather helped himself….. Duke has been a pleasure to ( temporarily) own, like his sister Harmonie a cheerful and friendly hound who loves to be at the centre of any action – or asleep on your lap on the sofa anytime after 8 pm. So looking forward to welcoming his puppies into the world in May. I’ve seen his first litter at home at Blevwils kennels and they are really nice – so Duke, no pressure, but more extroverts with great construction required here, please !


The Basset Fauve and epilepsy research – UK

Over time I have heard rumours of epileptic basset fauve de bretagne hounds, and when the opportunity came up to attend a lecture on the condition a couple of years ago of course I attended. Dr C. Mellersh is a leading geneticist at the Animal Health Trust and was speaking to an audience of Griffon Vendeen breeders, as epilepsy is becoming a problem in that breed. If you think about your French geography you will realise the two departments where our related breeds originated are very close to each other, and its certain that French hunters will have used ancestors of both breeds in the past. Could epilepsy have a common starting point, in Petits as well as Basset Fauves?

Dr Mellersh explained that the AHT collects saliva samples using a kit. The owner swabs the inside of the cheeks of each candidate hound with brushes they provide, which are then saved into sterile tubes.  They needed at least 12 samples from Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen to start research into finding which genes might be the source of the problem, and they had received enough to start their work. Additionally they needed a number of samples from elderly Petits who had never had a fit and could be considered clear of epilepsy, as their “control” group.

A couple of years passed, and this Winter  I decided to take up the genetic research angle with Brian, the research assistant  at the AHT. I wrote to him and asked if the AHT would be interested in any samples from BfdB, and if so which sorts of hounds. He asked for swabs from any hounds I could discover which had suffered from epilepsy, plus samples from hounds over the age of twelve who had never shown signs of the disease. He sent me a number of kit sets to issue to interested people.

After a calling notice on the Facebook page of the BfdB I received four requests for kits from owners of affected hounds, and a number of additional requests from owners of the suitably aged  ( 12 + and unaffected ) veterans. The AHT has asked for a full vetinerary report ( case history) on each affected hound, as epilepsy can be “idiopathic” ( no cause understood), and they will need as much information as possible before beginning their analysis in order to remove dogs with no genetic reason for epilepsy from their research group.

I’d like to stress that I have no interest in what is sent to the Animal Health Trust, and because owners and breeders are often afraid of the “stigma” of producing any dog suffering from an inherited disease this is as it should be. All I will do is issue the kits to anyone who asks for one. An addressed envelope to the AHT is inside the kit.

Brian has told me that if they have sufficient samples they will check the BfdB results against the Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen results when they are sure they have found the gene markers for the PBGVs. If we are fortunate it will indeed be the same mutation and our breed can benefit from research already done for the other breed. If it is a different mutation then it will be a much slower task to find the right genes in our breed, as we don’t really have enough samples here for the AHT to work on – they have other breeds in a much worse state and will concentrate on looking for their DNA markers.

The aim with any inherited problem is to discover a gene marker, and thereafter a DNA test to identify carriers and affected hounds across a range of specific diseases. With a DNA test carriers can either be removed from breeding, as a carrier will be unaffected, or perhaps the best specimens can be used – but only with tested clear mates, so there is no chance of producing affected progeny. From the tested offspring the best unaffected hounds who don’t carry this genetic problem could be selected to go into the next generation of breeding stock. Affected hounds can be identified before they are bred from and removed from the breeding population. Its a superb way of removing risk from any canine population. At the moment we could unwittingly breed “healthy” carriers together and produce affected progeny.

I should stress that the risk of epilepsy in the BfdB is very low indeed – to have only found four affected hounds in a population which grows, in the UK, by around 100 registrations per year and has individuals which can be expected to live for upwards of thirteen years is a very small problem, but breeders need to do all they can to keep it this way or remove it completely.

While writing about the AHT I was contacted by Anu Ahlroos – Lehmus, who works with the department at Helsinki University in Finland which identified a DNA test for epilepsy in the Lagotto Romagnola breed. They too would be interested in saliva samples from hounds affected with epilepsy as they are researching the basset breeds and have thousands of samples on file already. If anyone needs her details please let me know.

If breeders are concerned about the risk of producing epilepsy in this breed there is something which can be done right now. The Dutch club did its own research into pedigrees in the late 90s. I have had translations done from the Dutch of the original research papers, let me know if you would like a copy.  There is also a lady within the Dutch club who maintains a database showing which lines might be unsuitable to breed together as there are carriers or affected hounds in the background. As with my own experiences with PRA in another breed in the early 90s, in the days before DNA tests, the only way to keep clear of an inheritable disease would be to reduce the risk of accidentally breeding carriers together – so it would be worth an e mail to our Dutch colleagues to ensure you are not accidentally breeding in a manner which might produce affected basset fauves. You will find them very helpful.

Finally, a word about procedure. No blaming, and no whispering about show ring rivals !  This attitude is both old fashioned and counter productive. If any breed has problems then these are the responsibility of us all.  If you do  lack understanding about basic genetic principles – get to some of the excellent lectures run by the KC or the AHT and start to learn. No one ever sets out to breed a dog with a problem – its how we deal with it thereafter, with compassion and helpfulness, which brings a breed back to rights quickly. As I already know – as the group I worked with managed to eradicate a problem in another breed by working together and being open and careful with carrier lines. We trusted each other and got results. Its the only way…….



2014 show results

April 2014 

We don’t quite know how she managed this, but Ch Mahogany picked up the Points Trophy for Top Winning BfdB bitch 2013 at the Fauve Club AGM…… we also had the excitement of showing her at the Contest of Champions, a great night as Redemption the wolfhound’s great grandson went Best in Show. Well done Ch Moralach the Gambling Man !

Marmoset went with me to Ireland on the trip to take Duke home, and we took in two dog shows ( as you do). Zetty won her second green star with Best of Breed at Banbridge from Hound specialist Felicity Thompson ( Barnesmoor) which was rather nice.  Only five more to her Irish title, but the Blevwils Fauves are now much harder to get past……

March 2014

Crufts ! a good show for us again this year, with Ch Melchior winning the open dog class containing four other champions, Martel winning another puppy class, and in bitches Ir Ch Clementine second in veteran aged 9 1/2 and Marmoset second in Limit despite her youth.

Hound Open show: Martel second in puppy, and Clementine won Open.

Basset Fauve Open show: Marmoset won limit, and John and Sue Hubble’s Marignac won puppy dog.


February 2014

This was a GREAT month for Sue and John Hubble’s Norbert ( M. Marignac) with three best puppy awards at open shows leading to a hound puppy group second and two Hound puppy group wins.

Manchester Ch Show: Martel won puppy dog again, Annie second in open.

Zetty ( Marmoset) won two best of breeds, she is being brought back tp the ring for 2014 now she is more mature, she will be two in April. Best BfdB at both Maidenhead and Southampton, and 4th in the Hound Group at Southampton.

Ir Ch Hibeck Clementine was BOB at Lichfield for Frank Kane, with Martel Best Puppy.

Hibeck Creme Brûlée won three more postgraduate classes.

January 2014:

Ch Mochras Mahogany ( Annie) was Best of Breed at Boston Championship show and her young half brother Martel reserve best dog for the second show running, also best puppy.

Annie in the group ring

Martel ( Murray) is pictured below – adore this head !

Martel aged 8 months



tid and zetty june 13

2013 shows round up

As we reach the end of the year it seems the wins at the top level of Ch Melchior and Ch Mahogany have made given Mochrashounds ” Top Breeder 2013″. A great result, considering my first BfdB litter was only born 5 years ago. Four Irish Champions now, and an Irish Junior Champion, and the two in the UK, not forgetting Ch Marzipan our first export ( Norway).

Sweeping up the Autumn results – Annie her first two res CCs and Tid another CC from the BfdB Club Championship show.

Aug 13: Its been some time since I updated this list and the wins have been coming thick and fast ! Another double for Ch Melchior and Ch Mahogany at Paignton from Mark Cocozza, following Annie’s third CC at Leeds ( Ir Ch Milo was third in open there). Hound show, just Harmonie and matriach Ir Ch Clementine, the latter winning veteran bitch.WKC, Annie CC and Harmonie won Junior – en route to Ireland, where Harmonie won her Irish Junior Champion title with five excellents and Annie was BOB three times and Green star winner five ( Harmonie took the sixth one !).

Windsor, fauve family excelled themselves here under French Hound specialist Linda Skeritt ( Monkhams). Ch Melchoir CC, Mahogany ( Annie) second CC, BOB and pulled into final few of the Hound Group. Casper second in puppy dog.

Southampton, delighted that Ian and Jo’s Bramble ( Muscadet, Ch Latour x Ch Clementine) actually stood still on the table and earned her first prize. Annie was best of breed this time, over milo, and the pair were second in a big brace class.

Three Counties and I will always enter hounds for Mr Howard Ogden, always so kind to the dogs and interested in the breed. Zetty took her fourteenth first prize and Annie was reserve best bitch, winning open.Won Fauve breeder group but didnt stay to the end for the Hound group competition.

Southern Counties Another good show for us, a Finnish judge. We like the Scandinavian judges as they are well trained, know construction, and you can guarantee they wont be ” looking up the lead” at faces, which in my view is the bane of dog shows, when judges dont judge whats on the ground on four legs…. rant over ! Annie best bitch, beating three champions. Casper won puppy dog, Zetty won Junior bitch. This is Zetty’s thirteenth first prize, she is still unbeaten in her classes. It cant last….Even better, our breeder group was second in the Hound breeder group in stiff competition.

Bath and Zetty won Junior.

Guildford (Open) Ir Ch Milo Best of Breed, with Annie second to him in open. This was a great show for the Mochrashounds, as Caroline and Garth’s Maple, Annie’s sister, made her second visit to a dog show and was reserve Best of Breed. Young Harvey ( Marmite) did very well to be third in Junior, he was beautifully handled by young Holly. We had a small family gettogether which the hounds thoroughly enjoyed !

Birmingham National Annie Challenge Certificate, Tid res dog CC. Milo and Marmalade’s father completed his title and is now CH and Irish Ch Venquest Popcorn at Hibeck – thank you judge Zola Rawson, Hibeck and Mochras took all four top awards and young Casper qualified for Crufts.

The Mini Circuit ( Ireland, early May Bank Holiday weekend)

South Tipperary Annie Green Star, her seventh, completing her Irish title. Zetty 1st junior and res green star.

Fermoy International Annie reserve CACIB and Zetty 1st junior. Zetty was in contention to win overall best bitch ( at 12 mths two weeks!) but I chose wrong and handled Annie in the challenge, which meant Zetty didnt show well enough for Stephanie. My mistake…. I’ll keep to Zetty the next time i have two in the challenge, she is such a mummy’s girl…..

Hound Association of Ireland Annie green star bitch and Best of Breed. Zetty won junior

WELKS Zetty won her first junior bitch class – she remained unbeaten as a puppy !

Basset Fauve Open show Zetty won puppy bitch and Milo second in Open dog, Lucy won post graduate bitch.

Ashbourne and District – Zetty ( Mochras Marmoset) best puppy in breed and fourth in the Puppy Hound Group.

Maidenhead and District – Zetty best of breed as well as best puppy and third in the (adults!) Hound Group.

In Norway, Marzipan is now a full champion and has her hunting certificate. Well done little Miss ! the judge admired her dedication on the trail of hare, no other fresh scent distracted her from the animal she wanted and he noted he had never judged a Basset breed with such dedication to the one type of prey animal.

Its never been easy, breeding Wolfhounds…….

I came across a small piece of paper recently and thought I would record what is on it before this is lost again. A small yellow page, must have been written some time in the late seventies, maybe early eighties. This was in the days when I kept a notebook by the phone and scribbled a transcript of most of the conversations I had regarding Irish Wolfhounds.I was like a sponge, collecting pedigrees and every possible piece of information. This would help me to breed better wolfhounds, I thought, when the time came to chose a sire for my next litter.

This little yellow piece of paper isnt from one of my usual notebooks, and I wont be writing about those any time soon. Once I am sure everyone referred to is safely tucked in their grave I might leave these to the Irish Wolfhound Club. This single sheet must be a record of a conversation with someone – but who? That most important piece of information isnt on there. How could I have thought I would ever forget who I was talking to? Its likely to have been someone with good connections to Ireland who had already been in the breed for a while, and these comments must have been the result of my questions, trying to verify information about dogs or about problems I had come across already.

“Splash marked bitch at Ballykelly”. I had seen my first puppy with a large white face blaze at Marumac not long before, a baby from the Ch Carrokeel Coillte Merlin x M. Clary litter. Neither Mary McBryde or I had ever seen this before, but it wasnt long before I met Ballykelly Tigernach, Tony Doyle’s white head- striped male who was called ” Badger” at home. In these far off days new breeders were told they should look at culling litters if too many puppies were born, and mismarks and blues should be the first to go, if there were any. There were rumours of puppies born with big white legs, even a collar like a Collie’s – and in her typical fashion, Mrs Nagle had brought out Sulhamstead Motley, a dog with a big white chest and both a sock and a stocking in white, to make a point about conformation being more important than colour. She never extended this theory to blues ( dilutes) however – and thats a whole other story !

To this day you will come across breeders, some of them Irish, who loathe white markings and follow the Deerhound standard in wanting as little white as possible.I watched Kathleen Kelly of Nutstown dismiss some superb hounds from the ring in Dallas at the IWC Speciality she judged, having pointedly put her hand upon their white feet as she went over them. Her main winners barely had a white hair outside their chests. I have also witnessed the opposite extreme. In Norway, as at one of the East Coast Specialtiy shows IWAGs, there is a class for ” Best Irish Spotted Wolfhound”. Irish spotting is the term used in colour genetics for a dog with white edges – in its extreme extension there might be a saddle of black on the back with white head, legs and tail. In Wolfhounds we might see white up to the pastern, a tail tip, a big white chest and perhaps a white snip up the face, hard to detect when the hound is adult as the whiskers cover the muzzle area.

I can understand both viewpoints. The Kennel Club  Breed Standard is no longer clear on how to treat white markings.The breed club still follows the “old standard” in retaining the link with the Deerhound. Some breeders still  follow the underlying suggestion from the  IWC standard to follow those colours acceptable in the Deerhound, white being minimised.Yet Tony Doyle of Killykeen admired the white marked coat pattern and perhaps felt the phrase ” Irish Spotting” claimed the colouring for the Home Country.

Back to my piece of scribble.Breeders very soon found it hard to avoid the very white marked Sulhamstead Motley’s best son and grandson, champions Mogul and Wizard, and a scattering of white marked puppies come through to this day. Should we be worrying about it? There are worse things in an inbred breed population, and when I chose a dog with big white socks as my BIS at the last EIWC I thought he was the best constructed and best moving dog present on the day and disregarded the white feet. Not everyone will think the same.

Moving on….. “Int Ch Colin of Nendrum a poor stud”, this would have been an ” ah ha” moment for me, as I couldnt understand how such a beautiful hound could leave so few offspring. Wolfhounds have improved in the libido area over the last forty years, but back then you could speak to breeders who owned or knew of dogs which wouldnt mate.Ruth Jenkins of Eaglescrag wistfully told new breeders that she wished she had even a single puppy for every trip she took to Sulhamstead sires. Half of their champion males from the 60s- 70s left no progeny. I wonder how we compare today? I think our sires are more reliable, or perhaps its that we can sort out the ones with poor semen quality and not waste our bitches time with them.

“Ch Ballykelly Reamonn’s grandson  Navan died aged 15 months, heart condition ( enlgarged)”. I must check my death records book to see if I recorded or knew what Reamonn died from. Even in those times I was collecting information about what dogs died of, especially when they died young. This was probably Dilated Cardiomyopathy, DCM, something we knew to fear but didnt know how to avoid.

“Brabyns Red Rory x Melina puppy died of heart attack while under a year” and here was another one, this time based on Ch Petasmeade Chieftain of Brabyns lines. Susan Hudson ( Bowers) of Brabyns wasnt someone I particularly respected. She bred to make a living, and as a lifelong hobby breeder I couldnt get to grips with anyone who bred dogs to keep themselves ( as opposed to going out to work to keep the hounds). Her wolfhounds could have rather strange temperaments. Miss Hudson was kind enough to offer me a lift when she came across me as a foot passenger on the Dublin ferry, heading over to watch Helen Baird ( Outhwaite) judge the IWCI club show. She had a beautiful wheaten male called Donaghadee, but he was extraordinarily shy. If it occurred to me to wonder why he needed ” travel sickness pills” upon disembarking from the ferry I was too in awe of older breeders to question it, and this neurotic dog was a lamb by the time he was in the ring even if his pupils were dilated out to their edges. I wonder what was used? Donaghadee won that day, and later became a champion in the UK. I never bought stock or used dogs from this kennel as I was too sensitive about the ” natural” characters of the hounds after this experience.

There were a fair few nervous or downright neurotic wolfhounds when I came into the breed. No doubt I was interested to discover ” Thornwick Aran produced nervous puppies to proven good temperament dogs”. Her son Ch Boroughbury Justice was one of the best sires the breed has ever known, you certainly noticed his many champion offspring, a great leap forward. He went as a slightly older puppy to Betty Murphy ( Carrokeel). I also noted ” Justice passes on his head type, main exception to a poor headed Tolkavalley bitch”. I knew Justice, he was a rather reticent hound and Betty had worked hard at socialising him. He had a superb head and expression and could be depended upon to reproduce this. Over at Eaglescrag Justice’s aunt Rossan was also mated to Ch Caio of Eaglescrag and produced superb hounds such as Toby and Tansy – and the latter was desperately fearful, as were others bearing Rossan in their pedigree. Yet the hounds she was bred to were the most steady and charming of males.

In later years I have heard poor Fintan blamed over and over again for having a poor temperament. He was just lovely, a forward going and friendly dog in all circumstances. He was, however, mated to Rossan and had a very shy son who in turn produced some very nervous progeny…… maybe there’s something behind these two influential matriachs which was responsible for the far too nervous descendants. Another area of great progress, as wolfhounds of today are so much steadier and more forward going, you rarely see a neurotic hound out and about.

” Ch Ballykelly Molly Mulligan had bad entropion”. I pored over her pedigree looking for any connection with my own entropions, a brother and sister in my first litter, but there was none. ” Boroughbury Ballykelly Kilpadraic poor tail, hysterical barker, ugly head with light eyes”, I cant think why I should be interested  but I must have been – and any interest would have waned on hearing this of him!

“Brabyns Cailte died whelping, two dogs hand reared, one to go to the Finneys in Ireland and the other to Elsie James”. Gulliagh and Boroughbury affixes respectively. Susan Hudson wrote an article for an early IW magazine about rearing Mic and Mac. I loved Caillte, a superb bitch in my eyes at that time. “Patricks Day has osteochondritis, Ch Sulhamstead Match blamed”.Patricks Day was a most lovely puppy yet I wouldnt have used him at stud from the moment I heard this. OCD was rife in this era yet I cant now say I thought Sulhamstead hounds had any great amount of it.Perhaps Miss Hudson was in the know, or perhaps she was doing the customary breedery thing of blaming the only line which didnt come from her own kennel.

“Brabyns Connal and Colleen Dhu had curly tails ” I had a champion mother and her daughter with ring tails and wouldnt have wanted to double it up.

” Neither Eaglescrag nor Brabyns has ever had a distension ( gastric torsion). Blamed on incorrect feeding or habits”. We were all terrified of bloat, and were taught to feed hounds from chairs so they didnt bend down, to get them to eat slowly if possible and to never exercise until two or more hours after a meal. This comment might point to other factors than feeding habits. Both kennels had well tucked up houndy shaped animals and maybe they were genetically less likely to bloat than the heavier bodied sorts that were thicker through the middlepiece. I just dont know.

Here endeth my small piece of paper. If anyone around at the time has any slant of their own to put on what is basically repeated gossip please let me know – its breed history, after all, and memory being what it is/ was…….


Judging best puppy - Norwegian Club Show, Gol June 2013

some thoughts about judging

I dont judge dogs that often. In the past I always refused to judge anything other than Irish Wolfhounds, as all the time I was working the one breed was enough to think about. Some things stick, however, as I have been watching breeds being judged by others for some 43 years now.

The starting point has to be knowing your breed, closely followed by knowing your own mind. How often has one watched a judge “scratching their head” as they decide between exhibits? Its tedious watching someone re-do judging which really they could be getting on with as they first go over the hounds. Ringside doesnt see it as the exhibitors getting their moneys worth, they see a ditherer. How often have I heard colleagues muttering ” just get on with it” or even ” it doesnt get any better the longer you look at it” ! If you really cant make up your mind, move them again and pick the better mover. It gets you out of stasis.

I judge as I go along. The first dog is in  first place in my mind until I go over the second dog, which might go up a place against the first dog seen, or might stay second. And so on. In huge classes I doubt whether even the best judges can hold all the dogs in their heads in this way. I have friends who, liking the european system, grade dogs as they go as either excellent or very good, with the less than excellents not likely to make the cut. Do this by making a quick note in your book at the going over stage, or by sending the dogs to one corner of the ring or another – but this latter choice is rather hard on exhibitors. Remember Miss Pacey judging like this at one of the Olympia shows years ago, we dont often see it nowadays. Even in those far off days I registered that all the old ladies in hats were in the top corner !

I set great store by movement. I cant help this, its the way I have learned to differentiate the well handled from the well made. If the handler makes a set for the corner when you have directed them in a straight line up the middle then they are either novices or they are out to fool the judge. There’s the well known judges dance, when you have to hop sideways to see how the dog is coming towards one. I dont think enough handlers look up when they turn and head back for the judge, and certainly not enough ensure the dog is trotting towards the judge, rather than you the handler. If the dog is a very uncontrolled mover you can expect me to ask it to go again more slowly. I’ve exhibited dogs for over forty years. I too know to make a mess of the trot up and down when I have a dog which isnt worth looking at from that view but has a striking side gait ! I’m not even a good handler – and have made all the mistakes one can make over time.

I am hard over on co ordinated movement. If the dog is crabbing/ sidewinding, why is this? Too often its because the dog cant go on a straight line as its front and rear angulations arent balanced. Maybe its back is too long or too short, or its not in the best condition. This is when its worth walking the dog to watch exactly what the problem is, you can pick it up in slo-mo what you cant see it at a fast trot. I’ve asked a handler to swop sides with a hound before now. Some dogs learn to crab as a response to the speed, or lack of it, of the handler. Asking the handler to move the dog to their right side and go again can magic the problem away – if the dog still does it, then there is still something incorrect in its construction or soundness on that day.

So, you know your own mind and you know the breed, and how it should move for maximum efficiency - what next? That great judge Frank Kane has put it far better than I can in his article on integrity. Be true to yourself. Have courage. You are on your own out there and cant get a second opinion. If there is an ultra fit scruffy hound there with great construction and a handler with no idea, is that hound better than Mr Important’s charge, beautifully presented though his hound is? If you think so, then scruffy unknown dog has to win. Grooming can be improved upon, construction cant. You may well be thinking now ” hang on a moment, isnt it supposed to be a beauty show?”. Er, no it isnt. Handlers are showing the judge that they have an animal which meets the standard of excellence for that breed and ideally that the dog could go out and do what it was bred to do straight after the show. There is a lovely and true anecdote about a famous international champion which was allowed off lead for a wee en route to a dog show. She leapt off and chased a rabbit, returning caked with mud. The exhibitor could hardly bathe her at this late stage, yet the hound still won the certificate. The best dog has to win, not the best groomed, but its true its wonderful when the two conditions converge.

How to be brave as a judge? Have the courage of your own convictions.Exhibitors know their trade and some are wonderful handlers, and none of them go into the ring hoping for a second prize when they have been around for a while. I know I am quite self effacing as a handler, looking down at the dog and looking under my eyelashes for that signal that brings the dog into the line up ( you hope !). Others stare out the judge. You can see some people “willing” the judge to ” look at me, look at me”. Its amazing how often this works. Its why some folks have a showing ” uniform”, so the judge always knows Mr or Mrs Important is the one to seek out by what they usually wear. Red is often used – the colour of a first prize in the UK, look how often you see it on some handlers (!).

It is possible to turn a sows ear into a silk purse in the world of dogs.Exhibitors spend considerable time dedicating themselves to grooming and presentational skills in order to convince the judge they have the best dog. The judge needs to think through the logic if things arent quite as they might expect. If the handler has left a load of hair on a dogs neck, why is this? Disguising a ewe neck, is it? Handler is stringing up a hound so it can hardly breathe – why is this? Make the person loosen the lead and see if the dog 1) stays where it is ( was it on the edge of flight?) and 2) still has any sort of neck and head carriage without this ” assistance”. If the handler is staying close to the dog and you suspect he or she has a handful of dog cheek or throat in his hand, ask  them to drop their hands and look at the dog on its own. Funny old thing, sometimes you find a dewlap or a far- from- attractive amount of loose skin. The same if the handler is sitting beside the dog – are they helping the topline with a hand lifting the underline on the side the judge cant see?

Some dogs are trained to faff around when a judge approaches the mouth. This can happen by accident ( exhibitors spend far too much time wrestling with mouths of youngsters as they figure out whether the bite is going to be correct, and the dog can get into the habit of fighting for its head). It might have been allowed to get away with it in the hope a judge would give up and assume it was ok. The funniest experience I ever had as a judge was getting into a dogs mouth when the handler had curved her fingers over the area where some premolars should be. I could tell the difference. Persist, or downgrade the hound if you dont get a clear view. Always penalise narrow underjaws when you judge wolfhounds. its prevalent enough for the Scandinavians to have added it to their list of serious breed faults as its potentially painful for the hound when the canines are forced into the gum line, or even into the palate. Somehow I have never been able to get worked up about misplaced incisors, as long as the bite ( the set of the canines) is ok. When you judge you will get your own set of priorities about every part of the dog, but do be consistent.

” to their faults a little blind, to their virtues ever kind”, something I wish i were better at. Given time enough its just too tempting to write War and Peace in the critique. Its a novice judge type of thing, to try to list absolutely everything so the mystery critic ( your inner critic?) can see you havent missed anything important. Stick to a few essentials.Its rather nice to put criticisms in terms of ” winner had the better head/ ears/ movement on the day”. Yet why on earth write something anodyne about an animal which is a clearly second rate creature? I once spoke to someone who was thinking about breeding their bitch, a hound which was always last in the class no matter how many were in it. This lovely owner was committed to breeding a litter as there was never a word of criticism the times it was first out of one or second out of two. Not everyone can read between the lines when they start out, know that the  ” what a lovely character, enjoyed his day out” sort of comment equals ” its a pet, retire it”. Judges need to say what it needs to have improved at the very least. If the dog is unsound – do i need to say this? - dont place it.

In some entries, usually at championship shows or overseas, it falls to the judge to be the “baddie”. Mrs Nagle did this in America in the early 1970s, still talked about today. She reacted so crossly to straight rear ends ” stifles like sticks” that you never ever see a rear like that in the States to this day. We hear about ” the drag on the breed” – that fault or faults  which are endemic and which most breeders should be thinking to do something about. In America right now, and in the frequently expressed opinion of UK and Irish judges, that something is mouths. The bite of the dog isnt mentioned in the standard there. This doesnt mean it should be ignored. As one wit put it, the standard doesnt state the dog must have four legs but we can assume it should have them. Wolfhounds shouldnt have to catch up with a wolf and consider then whether its armament would be up to the job – breeders should think about mouths and bites too, as they do everywhere else in the world.

In the UK this “drag” is probably lack of quality and houndiness and beautiful movement.Where is the lovely neck, the clean shoulder and upperarm, the forechest?  There are always too few hounds with this combination, and the judges need to put up those they find. If there are more than two in any class consider yourself fortunate.

Another well known phrase is that you cant please all the people all of the time. The cynics’ truth to bear in mind as a judge is this -  straight afterwards your only friend will be the winner ( and only then if they also got best puppy). Following judging all those nice friendly folk who assiduously ” liked” your least utterance on Facebook will vanish away – with perhaps the exception of the Best of Breed winner. Just as you talk about all the other judges, so people will talk about you. You will have repaid a friend for their last award to you, given a good prize to someone you have always fancied, gone for Mrs X as she always wins everything on reputation…. all this background chatter has to be ignored. If you were fair and judged the dogs as you saw them on the day, then chatter is all it will be and you will know your integrity is intact.

You dont judge to be popular, to settle old scores, to stick out a banner of your idea of “The True Type” (only to be seen twenty or more years ago, and hasnt the breed deteriorated since One last bred Oneself). You judge as a responsibility, to add something back to the breed, be it what you know or at the very least your honest opinion on the day. You judge as fairly as you know how, you are pleasant to exhibitors, you dont dress to scare the horses ( sorry, hounds) and you have the humility to remember you will be back on the end of a lead the next week.You will also possess the secret knowledge that your exhibit really isnt quite as good as the one belonging to Mrs X, which really is a superb hound despite what everyone has been saying. Judging as part of a breeder’s toolkit…… now that sounds like another article one day…..


Basset Fauves – learning about function

I’ve been looking at this breed for over twenty years without particularly analysing them. Having owned them for the last nine it was time I fitted together the breed standards of France and GB ( they are slightly different) and figured out how the standard helped this basset breed actually hunt. We arent allowed to hunt with dogs in the UK, but I did see a chance to learn last year. By good fortune I blundered upon a hunter, living in Finisterre, Brittany, who has used the breed on rabbit, hare and deer for three canine generations. He has no interest in dog shows but owns a share in a shoot and also hunts his fauve pack three days a week in the season. I took an interpreter, as his English is about as good as my French ( learned in school and not used much thereafter). Dagmar Kenis Pordham ( Solstrand) isnt only interested in sighthounds! She was the first person to give a basset fauve a best in show at an open show and was a great help as she knows all the canine terminology as well as admiring the breed.

What did I learn? At first sight this pack had the most superb hindquarters. As a sighthound person I had been privately wondering if my determination to own and show basset fauves with straight hocks and decent drive ( in IWs we abhor cowhocks) was as a result of forty years of conditioning by Mrs Nagle and other luminaries of the Wolfhound world . They were hard over on the subject of strong thighs and second thighs and hocks turning neither in nor out. Was I right to want the same in a scenthound breed? These hunting Fauves had the most stunning backsides -  Mrs Nagle would have approved !  I watched the massive amount of drive these rears produced, packed with muscle as they were, and determined to stay on the same track. Straight hocks producing parallel action. Nice to watch.

A 9 month puppy from the H litter

A 9 month puppy from the H litter

The next feature I admired and which was common to all these hounds was a strong neck. I havent seen much of this in hounds shown in the UK, short necks are common yet these moderate length necks were all arched. Another lightbulb moment. As in sighthounds an arch of neck provides strength and is an indicator of a well laid shoulder. These little hounds had moderate angulation, everything about them was unexagerated – yet they too had this feature of laid back shoulders and arch of neck.

I then picked up that the bitches were definitely a size smaller than the males, it wasnt at all hard to see which sex was which. Both sexes werent particularly groomed, but their harsh coats were definitely not overlong and they were of wiry texture. Talking to their owner, he said he used to use Petits but had to give them up as his hunting area was too full of the sort of stuff which catches in coats, and he was fed up grooming the burrs out of their coats when he brought them home. Ah, function as appropriate to countryside – the Brittany fields are small and thickly hedged, the woods are dense. I dont know the Vendee at all but do know the PBGV has to have as much coat as it does as it needs protection from brambles. Short harsh jackets must suit the Brittany wild areas rather better, and my man had switched to the breed appropriate to the country.

Gina 12 mths old

Gina 12 mths old

Even the smallest hound had a big capacious chest, yet in proportion, and upperarms were definitely laid back, setting the foreleg beneath the body. The set of the humerus is another key area for me in sighthounds. Good layback there adds to the shock absorbing function of the front. Clearly it matters in the endurance hunting of the scent hound too.

Now to something I had wondered about for a while, the crook. I asked this hunter if it bothered him that the forelegs on his hounds werent completely straight. He looked at me as if I was mad. Of course they had a crook, he said. This was a Basset breed ! Back in the UK there seems to be a great desire for completely straight ” beagle like” forelegs in the showrings. I’d started to breed for it. I’d  also passed the B list seminar to judge PBGVs, and know their standard allows for a slight crook ( even if you cant see it beneath the coat). Here was a pack of hunting hounds which does 10 – 13 kilometres three times a week in the season. These little hounds have great stamina and endurance and can put on bursts of speed too. I had a good hard look at their forelegs. Straight underneath the humerus they nonetheless had a slight outward turn at the pastern ( the crook). So, a completely straight foreleg and a crook at the pasterns, not huge but definitely discernable. No coat to hide it either. Another lighbulb moment. If these Basset Fauves could hunt over the country they were bred for, who was I to look for straight forelegs in another country where we dont even hunt? The standard allows for a slight crook, and surely if the hunters found straight legged hounds hunted better wouldnt they be breeding for it? They dont. So, mental note to look for straight forelegs, no bandy bone there, but a crook isnt something to have the horrors about, quite the reverse. Its a bit of a relief, as sighhounds with no ” give” at the pastern, despite their straight appearance viewed from the front, knuckle over and break down as time goes on. They need some flexibility under the pastern, and so do the basset breeds.

Heads werent an afterthought here, all the hounds had defined foreheads ( the amplified French standard describes it as looking like a Norman arch, not a dome). As a result the ears were low set, level with the eye, and long. I so admired the ears on these hounds, inward folding and no problem reaching the end of the nose when pulled forward. As you would expect, all the noses were huge – another important breed feature.

Another H litter puppy showing slight crook to forelegs and the typical head of her kennel

Another H litter puppy showing slight crook to forelegs and the typical head of her kennel

How about the contents of the head? Rene was very proud of the Brevets du Chasse his hounds had achieved in hunting trials. I was there to look at a litter, and mother Diva had her qualification on deer, hare and rabbit. Groomd up I had the private thought that Diva and Gina would easily gain their titles in the UK.The hounds were quiet and responsive to their huntsman, very friendly and completely happy to dash around as a pack with no squabbles. Perfect pack hounds, and this great temperament transfers well to life as a family pet.

Perhaps I should mention the mouths, as judges have told me “mouths are a problem in your breed”. Every dog in this pack had a full mouth and perfect dentition. Stands to reason – they need their teeth for work. When I showed someone the inside of Harmonie’s mouth not so long ago they reeled in shock – such big strong teeth wouldnt disgrace a terrier. And a terrier too does a fair bit of killing with its teeth, which is why terrier judges are so very keen on big well set gnashers.

Moving along several months, and Harmonie has settled in well here. She has a page to herself in on the website. She is so intelligent and loving, I have great eye contact with her and she isnt as ” scattery” as some fauves I know, she applies herself seriously and is very obedient. Her brother Hasard is in Ireland and already on route to his title, admired for his sound action and compact body.

I learned some useful lessons at a good point from Rene, and hope to return before too long – I still have an ambition to watch fauves hunting! The littermates retained by the home kennel won best puppy at the informal pack puppy day back in the Spring, and I have my eye on what young Gina might produce one day…….


Redemption ( Am Ch Carrickaneena Slieve Gullion) and his sons

I’ve been sent some photographs of Redemption sons recently, so thought I would post them here together with some reminisces about the dog, and how these litters came about.

Dagmar Kenis Pordham was the first to use this USA import, it was her Solstrand Unity’s third and final litter and Unity had produced puppies with many of her good attributes previously. Fingers crossed her progeny inherit her longelivity, Unity’s eleventh birthday is in October 13. Arthur followed his sire in being a red brindle live wire puppy. It was next to impossible to get a halfway decent photograph of him, he was so busy and thrilled whenever humans came into view. By the time he was decently trained and behaved himself on the lead – and would get into a car- he wasnt particularly enthused by the showing idea.

Solstrand Arthur Ardfuail winning a strong open dog class Birmingham Nat May13

Solstrand Arthur Ardfuail winning a strong open dog class Birmingham Nat May13

Solstrand stud dogs have made a huge contribution to the Irish Wolfhounds of the home kennel (and too many others to list) for many generations, and it may be that Arthur’s influence will be as strong as that of its other key sires such as Kasper and Shadow ( Kilmara). Arthur has won a challenge certificate and is noted for his excellent bone and construction, yet he isnt much shown as it bores him. As a stud dog its been a different matter, his seven litters have made him top sire with a stonking number of points for 2012 based upon the wins of his progeny. He’s also kept up his kennel’s tradition of winning the Typical Head Cup at breed championship shows. Every one of his litters has contained something worth presenting in the rings, and his  son Ch Mascotts Another Stripe made a very early championship. Stripey’s sister Ch Another Dreamer has a superb career too, winning far more best of breeds, including Crufts, than girls usually do. At most shows in the UK Arthur children dominate the winning line ups, its quite usual to see four or more of them in first places with very often a handle on the big green and white cards too.

Redemption’s next litter was a litter ex one of Chris McLeod’s beautiful Brachan girls, this should have been a stunning litter as it was linebred to the famous Seplecur line belonging to Chris and the late Gordon Crane. One dog puppy stood away and was almost enough for Chippy to agree to retain ( this family of hounds is always continued through the female line). “Toedy” instead went to Germany and became a champion there. His owner Dagmar Deitrich takes a photograph every day of her beloved in one context or another, this is the dog on a recent walk freely standing.

a german champion ( etc)

Redemption’s third litter to Rainster Tolly was conceived when I was in the States watching the Dallas National Speciality, our lovely dog sitter Nina assisted Diane Redfern and we were assured Redemption needed no help whatsoever ( he was always very fast to catch his girls, and never missed !). I was interested in this combination as there was  distant line breeding to the late Maggie Wilkin’s Clonara / Clonmagara kennel through Redemption’s grandmother Alia ( Ch Ascara’s sister, by Ch Klint). The last of the Clonmagaras lived out exceptionally long lives at Rainster and are behind Tolly. A huge litter resulted, and I went to see this litter of bright golden brindles several times. Ruby returned with me as the ” stud fee puppy” and won a reserve CC as a youngster, she is a wonderful mover.

Back at home three dog puppies were retained together with one bitch. One of these dogs was a skinny and lanky puppy who moved really well – but otherwise, his brothers were always preferred to him and he never made the “cut” amongst those who chose their own dog puppies from the litter. Rory grew up – and up- and was shown as a yearling. It took him a while for his chest to drop and also for a handler to be found to match his enormous stride. Once he sorted himself out a great partnership was forged with Caroline Sheppard, who handled him to his first challenge certificates before handing him back to his ” mother” to win some more with him. Ch Rainster Rory has in turn sired some beautiful puppies and was top winning wolfhound in 2011.

The last person to use Redemption was Helga Muller, whose Temair kennel in Germany added another large litter to the tally, and Ch Germany to his list of champions.

Looking back to 4th June 2005. I took a call from Eileen Flanagan which gave me the complete shock of learning the semen I sent her back in the early 90s had finally achieved a result – and thirteen puppies on my birthday out of her best champion, how could I resist ? The boys were all entire by five and a half weeks too, all seven of them.

Redemption “stayed in the USA” as semen is stored at Carrickaneena, and he sired two litters before leaving for the UK.

I wonder now what the IW in the UK would look like today without his influence. Redemption’s long lived and heavily boned maternal Carrickaneena line has provided its legacy of better than usual strength of bone, great size and substance, brave and  trustworthy temperaments. Redemption’s sire Ch Mochras Ipse Facto was the best dog I ever bred, and for his size a superb mover with a huge chest and fabulous quarters and neck strength. Half or more of the big Carrickaneena litter achieved their USA titles and a full brother is a Grand Champion.

I have saved some A.I. doses on Redemption, but it may well be twenty years before I access it again. It will take a long time for his influence to wane, and I hope he isnt line bred to – he’s far too dominant across UK bloodlines as it is. Too many good sons from too few beautifully bred bitches. Its quite a legacy, and I am not complaining – but do see the big picture and use all the available long lived lines, not only this winning one !


The Griffon Fauve de Bretagne in the UK

There are a few Griffon Fauve de Bretagne in the UK, most of them in the ownership of members of the ( proposed) gfdB Club. The photograph is of some of the puppies in the second litter born in the British Isles.This will be a Hibeck litter once again out of a bitch from one of the top hunting and exhibiting kennels in France.

griffon fauve pups

This is by way of a “plug” for the breed, as its quite madly difficult to get a new breed recognised in the UK. Even a breed as old ( thirteenth century !) and as well established under the F.C.I. European tradition as this one is. The proposed club has hundreds of members who wish the breed well. Those Scottish and English- owned Griffon Fauves shown in Ireland under FCI rules have been given top honours, including group placings. Yet they still cant be shown here. Its actively putting buyers off purchasing the breed. Time after time their breeder is told someone would love to have a Griffon Fauve – but not until the KC adds them to the Import Register, and they can be shown here.

Almost singlehanded, Jean McDonald Ulliott is spending her own money on purchasing examples from Sweden, Belgium and naturellement France to show there are sufficient new bloodlines to make the breed viable here. She’s achieved that, next the number of dogs registered has to reach a certain figure and the Club needs to bring owners together with social events. This is on track.

This is by way of an appeal to those interested in French breeds and their addition to the UK’s showing and working community. Look at this breed and think about its qualities. They are keen to work, not as hunters any more but as agility dogs, tracking hounds – and some have gundog like tendencies to retrieve to hand. Like any fit and active breed they ideally need fit and active owners who will want to exercise these keen minds and well made bodies. Are you right for the breed, whether or not you can show it right now? If no one comes forward to buy these puppies the Griffon Fauve breed wont be going onto the Import register any time soon, and thats where they should be as soon as they can be put there. Maybe as soon as the end of the year, given sufficient support – do you know anyone who would like to go on this journey, to establish the breed in the UK?

What is the breed like? I own the associated breed the Basset Fauve de Bretagne, and would say the Griffon Fauve is more obedient and more likely to return when called. Thy are a bit bigger than a Flatcoat retriever and a bit smaller than the Spinone. They have a bit more heft than the Wire Visla, which otherwise they rather resemble in coat colour and texture. Any colour you like – as long as its red ! They are just as trustworthy with children. They are a “fun” dog, with lots to give and also with a type of physical toughness which probably stems from being bred as a pack hound, they are not given to frailties or illnesses and seem to go onto a robust old age.

Tempted? I hope you will be, as this is such a worthy addition to the breeds already recognised in the UK. I hope I see the first examples recognised in our showrings before too long – they are so sound, well balanced in temperament and striking looking that you wont be able to miss them – once they are allowed to be seen, that is !

Some thoughts about Irish Wolfhound puppies

Musing on the difference between breeding a litter of Irish Wolfhound puppies in 2013 compared to the litter I first bred in 1973. In those days the Club, the owner of the stud dog and the breeder of my first wolfhound councelled new breeders heavily. They had memories of the Second World War shortages followed by twenty years of breeding purely for themselves and the ( usually landowning) afficianadoes of this giant, and had gone through hard times to keep the breed. The idea that “ordinary people” might own wolfhounds did not have much attraction at this time. Accordingly, new breeders were told they should cull their litters if their bitch conceived more than six puppies on the grounds that puppies were extremely hard to sell to the right sort of homes, and that even with six puppies a new breeder should be prepared to keep most of the litter for six or seven months in case these good homes didnt materialise.

My first litter by Ch Caio of Eaglescrag ex Buckhurst Theresa was therefore culled from nine down to six. The wise people in the breed were right, the puppies were hard to sell to the right sorts of homes as we were new and in those pre internet days advertising in the newspapers ( apart from perhaps Horse and Hound) was frowned upon. Commercially prepared foods were in their infancy, we fed on hound meal biscuits, meat and lots of milk plus virol and later, Collocal D calcium supplementation ( until we realised this was overdoing it).

Now to 2013. The Kennel Club and other leading bodies decry the culling of healthy puppies. The internet is everywhere, its never been easier to publicise the arrival of a litter. Commercially made and comparatively cheap methods of dog feeding are ubiquitous, ordinary people ( like me!) are by far in the majority as wolfhound owners. So, why has it been the best part of eight years since I bred an Irish Wolfhound litter?

Time has been part of it. I was used to achieving all my targets at work within 9 or ten months and saving up all my leave in order to manage a litter every second or third year together with working full time. As I moved up the career ladder, absences of two or three months were out of the question, and saving up the necessary thousands to pay a stud fee and prepare for those first weeks of life became less of a priority than taking occasional holidays, building a new house to accomodate dogs, and so on.

Knowing too much has been another part of it. One becomes wary of breeding “this way” as an admired family line has too much cancer, or ” that way” as another has too much heart disease. Wolfhounds have never been the easiest breed to rear to adulthood, its depressing to work  with the lovely person who has bought a puppy and finds it has developed a bone growth disorder in its first year, so how one deals with disappointment and disease has to be factored in. When your puppies are as close to your heart as they are for most ” hobby breeders” you  feel for the dog and its owners, and spend hours trying to discover the best courses of treatment.

Then there are the advances in vetinerary medicine and the testing regimes to which the good breeders subscribe. If you breed a puppy with PSS ( liver shunt) its now possible to have the puppy operated upon, and at a substantial cost to the breeder.Its very rare indeed for a novice owner to buy a UK bred puppy which will need the thousands spending on it to save its life. Some insurers will pay out, but not all, and hardly any support the breeder with a payout. You cant predict PSS, but you can ask stud dog owners if their male has produced it and avoid using them if you think there may be cases in your bitch’s background. Its an expense to be born in mind – as if you cant raise the funds to do the shunt operation, the honourable alternative is for the breeder to have the puppy put down. Most of us cant bring ourselves to do this without giving the puppy a chance.

Heart testing, another worthy advance – but at what cost? My hounds have been in the scheme for over 25 years. Stud dogs have been tested annually and withdrawn from stud if they develop dilated cardiomyopathy, as some have. Checking all hounds for heart health has to be the right thing to do, particularly where a bitch may be put into whelp appearing normal but then die as the full range of tests didnt pick up the enlarged heart which carrying a litter will tip over the edge – it has happened, fortunately not here. Yet such a high proportion of the breed seems to carry the risk of heart disease. I’ve spent over forty years hunting down the long lived family lines, and even so have sadly ceased breeding from three families developed over generations as they failed in one health related department or another.The saddest time was having three female littermates living between 9 and 12 years and none of which were bred from because of the perceived PRA risk at that time.

My personal decision around heart disease ( stating the obvious) has been to try to steer towards lines where this problem is less prevalent.To only work with people who are honest and open and have long and knowledgeable careers within the breed. There are breeders, admittedly a handful, who wont breed a bitch until she is over five – as by middle age a dog not having DCM will probably not develop it for rather longer, if at all. Rather this  than breed a bitch at two and have her develop something at four which a percentage of her progeny will have to deal with in their turn. Using A.I. from males which lived long and healthy lives must be a better idea than using this years top sire or top winner. Pernille Monberg in Denmark was probably the first breeder to mark up her hounds’ pedigrees with ages and causes of death, plus their siblings and ancestors, and breed actively for longelivity. She has scoured the world for A.I. from long lived sires and used it on the healthiest of female lines with long lived histories. She can point out rapid advances of health and lifespan as a result of concentrating on increasing lifespans of her hounds  first, and ahead of show wins ( see Kennel Wolfhouse for some further information).

Breeders in 2013 can look at the Kennel Club’s website to ensure they arent breeding any more closely ( inbreeding) than the breed norm. Find this under ” mate select”. The last breed bottleneck was as a result of breeders world wide focussing upon Quincy of Kilmara and his superb siblings. I suspect the UK may be heading for another one as a result of the dominance of the sons of Am Ch Carrickaneena Slieve Gullion within the breeding community here. Yet this American only had three litters here! Fortunately the dog has long lived lines behind him, but breeders need to forget about the show wins and look around  for other families to keep up the genetic variation. Some other breeders are too prone to inbreed within the family they like and trust – nowadays the KC Health advisers would tell them to cease, as its not healthy for a breed which is already a closed population stemming from a tiny handful of hounds. Across all pedigree breeds the results of the closest matings ( brother/ sister, father/daughter) cannot be registered. Its a start.

Looking at my two eight year old ( castrated) dogs and the only possible bitch I have to go on with, Ruby who will be five in June, I still wonder whether I should breed. Keener and younger breeders are producing more than enough for the “market” to bear. I hear its as hard as ever to find good homes for puppies – one breeder reports she turned down six and accepted just one she thought had the right facilities and time for a puppy. There are some disgusting puppy farms masquerading as caring breeders. Their websites look marvellous, they have a huge web presence. They make no secret that they dont particularly love the breed, their interest is purely commercial. They  churn out nondescript litters from over used sires and sell to anybody, sometimes paying lip service to health testing and usually being uncontactable as soon as the money has changed hands. No doubt they sell to people the hobby breeders would reject – but its still one marketplace, they will also sell wolfhounds to the nice homes the hobby breeders who have occasional litters would like to find.

Looking back to that generation of breeders in the 70s, often with farms and space to spare, with staff as often as not and with leisure time to enjoy dog shows….. it seems a different world. Looking forward, many of the hobby breeders of my age group and older are thinking of retiring, the demographics arent in favour of the ( mainly ageing) group of people breeding for themselves, the show ring and in pursuit of the beautiful well made healthy hound – with no notion of making a profit from them. If too many of us are discouraged, will the breed have much of a future with the commercial breeders as the only ones prepared to supply a market – while there is a profit in it for them? I do hope this is a pessimistic outlook.

Will I breed from Ruby? its still a maybe. As she will be five and a half, it may be nature will decide for me and she wont conceive.

Looking for a puppy? Try the link to – as these are the ” good guys”, the site does not accept commercial breeders.


Est. 1970 Irish Wolfhounds and Basset Fauve de Bretagne